Amici,
A friend wrote me some questions about the current situation, so I'm presenting here some of my answers.
My amicus asks:
Have you noticed a major influx of Ukrainian refugees in Budapest? If they decide to stay indefinitely, will it be good for Hungary and it’s economy or one, big financial drain?
I've
not noticed any, but I only go into Budapest occasionly these days. I'll write more, at length about this below because
Hungary and Poland are taking more refugees than the other E.U.
countries, and getting roasted for it! And I mean, losing E.U. money.
See citizenfreepress here for details.
An excerpt:
In essence, it means that if conservative countries dissent against the liberal European mainstream on how to govern — for example, Hungary’s passing of legislation which prohibited LGBT+ propaganda to be taught in schools or rejects mass immigration — the offending country could be refused access to European funds they are entitled to, Remix explains....The parliamentary vote means that the European Union has diverted its attention and resources towards sanctioning two of its own members at a time when the wider European continent is in disarray and Russia is seeking to flex its muscles and assert its dominance in Ukraine, Remix comments.
It also means that the Hungarian and Polish governments must divert their own time and resources to confronting the hostility from Brussels, as both countries seek to contain the humanitarian crisis is unfolding on the European Union’s external border and take in hundreds of thousands of refugees.
AnP again:
In
Europe, if a country doesn't support everything Gay, it will be
punished. You can imagine what this will mean for Churches and Christian
Believers. Bad days are coming.
You also state:
“The 2021 IMF Assessment of the Macroeconomic Impact of structural
Reforms in Ukraine estimated Ukraine would need to grow at close to 7 %
for 20 years to reach the level of development of Poland today”.
Yes,
indeed. EVERYONE knows that if Ukraine joined the E.U., millions of
Ukrainians would flood all of E.U. Europe. They wouldn't stay at home,
if they could possibly get out.
You ask:
* Does anyone in this Email group seriously think the Ukrainians will be allowed to return back home to their land to rebuild among the rubble, toppled buildings, statues, and scorched earth?
Personally,
I suspect this is an "extermination war" run by the WEF and the Western
"Deep State" to recreate "the Western World" as a single oppressive
world government with no Constitutional rights and only digital
currency, not to mention mandating the hedonistic post-'60s sexual morality that is
enervating manhood, erasing womanhood (any guy can claim to be a woman now), and sowing sexual identity confusion in the West – that's not a popular
thing to say, but history in unequivocal about it. This current war, my friends, is merely the war Hillary would have fought had she been elected in 2016;
but because she lost to Trump, the war had to wait till another
Democrat idiot puppet was "installed" and that is why the Powers-That-Be
spent ALL FOUR YEARS of Trump's presidency demonizing Trump! But since
he was clearly going to win in 2020, they repeated their coup d'état
they pulled on the legally elected Ukrainian government in 2014. That's
the reason CackleCamel-toes Harris launched Putin's invasion by saying
the U.S. looked favorably on Ukraine's entry into NATO. Putin invaded
days later.
Let's assume...
But
let's assume we somehow avoid this horrible slave-status they've
ordained for us, and answer your question about refugees returning to
Ukraine.
I
think some will, but it will depend on a lot. Most importantly, who
will be running Ukraine at that time? Russia or otherwise the WEF (World
Economic Forum) and the American Deep State? If Russia, then actual
Ukrainian Slavs will probably be allowed to return, after being
"vetted", checked for past connections and political affiliation. Gay activists will probably be excluded, and Nazis. (Many of the original Nazi leaders were homosexuals, as were the Frankfurter school Communist intellectuals, BTW; political radicals are rarely family men.)
I
doubt the Hungarian ethnics will want to go back, or be allowed to, whoever runs Ukraine. They've been treated extremely badly (as have Ukrainian ethnic Russians) since Obama's – well, the American Deep State's – coup d'état in 2014. They'll probably stay in Hungary.
Poland,
on the other hand, is likely getting standard Ukrainians, and I don't
think Poland will want to keep them. Poland ruled parts of Ukraine, off
and on, for centuries, and the Ukrainian city of Lviv used to be Lvov, a
wholly Polish city. The region surrounding Lvov was Ukrainian-speaking,
but not the city. All those Poles were killed or driven out
after World War II. (Pretty much, in 1945-46 the entire eastern half of
Poland was forcibly moved to the eastern quarter of Germany, and those
Germans living there were forced into what became "East Germany".) But
the Hungarian-speaking part of Ukraine had been part of the Hungary
proper, historically. So, Ukrainian territory that had Hungarian
speakers used to actually belong in the Kingdom of Hungary. All that land is probably lost to ethnic Hungarians.
N.B. An idea of how complicated this situation is:A huge section of northwestern Romania, actually Transylvania (forget Dracula), actually was part of the Kingdom of Hungary too, and many living there still speak Hungarian and identify themselves as Hungarian. Modern Hungarians have a loving longing for Erdély, as it is known in Magyar, and it remains a sort of a "lost Magyar Shangri-La" to them, stolen by the Western allies who fought the war to prevent what they then imposed on the defeated! Erdély also has the least people per square mile in Europe, I believe, and remains largely forested. It is unique in that after the Turkish conquest of Hungary in 1526, the Turks left Transylvania moderately free as a quasi-independent principality (it's mountainous, also) for centuries whereas they depopulated the central Hungarian flat agricultural lands they had captured. Also, the entire southern third of Slovakia is historically Hungarian, as are sections of what is now northern Serbia (and a narrow slice of eastern Austria: i.e. parts of "Burgenland").The historical Kingdom of Hungary had various ethnic groups within its borders, and these grew to detest Hungarian rule after the Hungarians and the Austrians created the "Austrian-Hungarian Empire" in the 1860s. ("National identity" began rising in the early 1800s across all of Europe, and in the later half of the century, Hungarian authorities tried to impose Hungarian language learning on "the ethnicities", something these ethnicities in turn imposed on Hungarians after WWI!) Because of historical twists and turns, the entire nation of Croatia had become attached to the Kingdom of Hungary. And I mean, this happened as far back as 1102 and the Pacta conventa, under which Croatia joined with Hungary in a "personal union" via dynastic intermarriage.So, after World War I, the Western Allies broke off large chunks of Hungary via the Treaty of Trianon – in the case of Croatia, this partition made sense because of language and ethnic differences, but then the British and French immediately welded Catholic Croatia to Orthodox Serbia. Talk about a shotgun wedding! The two didn't like each other; they spoke basically (more or less) the same language and were (kinda sorta) a single ethnic people originally, before Christianity, but a 1,000 years of religious division made them two separate people – so together they went whether they liked it or not! When Communism fell, they immediately "divorced". Anyway, as you can see, this region's history is extremely complicated.
Language
One
language note about Ukrainian because it gives a notion of how fluid
national identity can be: sometimes called Ruthenian (and Ukrainian
Eastern-Rite Catholics were sometimes called Ruthenians), Ukrainian is
an eastern-Slavic dialect with close affinity to both Russian and
Belarusian – they are all three actually to some extent
mutually intelligible, like Scots-Gaelic and Irish. What they represent
is a linguistic continuum. However, unlike say, Irish-Gaelic, which
(along with Welsh) has the oldest literary tradition in Europe, after
Latin and Greek, Ukrainian has no literary history at all until about
the early 18th century, and thus has no literary tradition until that
time, when young Ukrainian intellectuals began to build on what
Ukrainian identity existed. Compare that to Polish, which has its
earliest longer prose pieces going back to the early 1300s or Hungarian,
whose literary history goes back to 1200 with the Halotti beszéd, a brief funeral speech composed about 1200, with many translations from Latin starting thereafter.
This
language business stands as significant because it suggests that
Ukrainian ethnic identity, while real, is a lot more recent and thus
politically problematic in terms of basing a modern Ukrainian identity
on. Also, you can see why ethnic Russians in Ukraine would be angered
about their version of Eastern Slavic being 'dissed' by the post-2014
coup western-gov "installed" Ukrainian regime. The Ukrainian government
truly tried to "go to war" with both Russian and Hungarian languages
(and whatever Polish survives) in Ukraine! Finally, I've read where, in
this invasion, brothers – actual brothers – are fighting
each other on the different sides. So, that in itself demonstrates how
complicated this situation, and that no easy answers exist to this
mess.
An Préachán
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